# Simulation of an offshore Wind turbine 5MW based DFIG **URL:** \ **Category:** Controls\ **Created:** [December 7, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246 "2015-12-07T19:17:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/41 "2017-05-05T11:51:20Z")
Dear Mr Jonson Please i want to create a very fluctuant wind profile with Turbsim, i have changed the intensity turbulence A,B and C, also the IEC turbulence type and almost the profile generated is the same Can you please explain me how to obtain a very fluctuant model Sincerely yours ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/42 "2017-05-05T13:21:01Z")
Dear Ali, I’m not sure I fully understand what you want to do, but the mean wind speed and mean velocity profile are fixed in TurbSim over the simulation length. It is the variations of the velocity components about this mean profile that fluctuate over the simulation. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/43 "2017-05-05T13:26:50Z")
Thank you Mr Jonson WELL understood I means how to generate a very turbulent wind profile (i.e holistic wind). The profile that i have obtained is a litle smooth ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/44 "2017-05-05T13:35:49Z")
Dear Ali, I’m still not sure I understand what you want to do, but if category “A” turbulence is not as severe as you need, you can always specify your own turbulence intensity via TurbSim input parameter IECturbc. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/45 "2017-05-05T13:48:58Z")
For example you can see at the image Wehn i used the turbulent intensity (B) i obtain the below profile , i have also used turbulence intensity until 40% and always the almost the same profile whereas an author have created the profile in the top of the figure. I have never achieve to generate as that even i change the turbulence intensity, I am wondering if there is an other parameter to change Thanks ![fast.jpg](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/original/2X/8/856285e8061b2aed8b7cfcf70c9b5bd683dc1c9e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/46 "2017-05-05T14:13:28Z")
Dear Ali, It is hard for me to read the y-axis labels of the second plot, but I would guess that the standard deviations (or TI) of the two signals are very similar. Is your concern that the first plot has higher frequency content? Are you using the recommended TurbSim time step of 0.05 s? Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/47 "2017-05-05T14:21:20Z")
They have the same second labels (100s) Yes i want to generate a wind with a higher frequency content what time step are you meaning, the only step that i know is the FAST time step which is for my model is 0.0125 ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/48 "2017-05-05T14:30:59Z")
Dear Ali, I am referring to the TurbSim input parameter TimeStep. Is this set to 0.05 s? Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/49 "2017-05-05T14:41:26Z")
ah ok thank you I founfd it at 1 s ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/50 "2017-05-06T10:09:37Z")
Mr Jonson tell me also how i can limit the wind speed in the operational region 3 (i.e the wind speed still above the rated wind speed) because I have fixed the mean wind speed to 15 m/s but the wind speed drops untill 7 m/§ ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/51 "2017-05-08T12:51:02Z")
Dear Ali, There is no way in TurbSim to put a lower-limit on the wind speed. Of course, you can always reduce the turbulence intensity if you wish to minimize the variations of wind speed about the mean. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/52 "2017-05-09T22:30:48Z")
Thank you very much well understood Please tell if the flap-wise bending mode couples to the drive train mode in FAST Let me know also the relation between the flap-wise, edge-wise to the symmetric and the asymmetric modes on the one hand, and the in-plane and the out-plane modes on the other hand Sincerely yours ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/53 "2017-05-09T22:58:09Z")
Dear Ali, Depending on the FAST model set-up (e.g. blade structural pretwist and pitch angle), the blade-flapwise bending could certainly couple with the drivetrain torsion. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/54 "2017-05-09T23:09:52Z")
Thank you very much Mr Jonson for your fast response Please what you means by model set-up For example in my study i have linearized a the model around an operating point in the high wind speed by activating GenDOF, DTrDOF and the first flapwise mode for pitch control purpose. So we can speak in this case in the coupling between the drive train and the flapwise bending mode ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/55 "2017-05-09T23:11:45Z")
Dear Ali, I meant to say that if the blade structural pretwist and/or pitch are nonzero, then the flapwise bending mode could couple with the drivetrain-torsion mode. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/56 "2017-05-09T23:20:06Z")
the pitch angle is not zero because the model is taken in the above wind speed but really I dont find the pretwist parameter in the elastoDyn input file to verify if it is zero or not Tell me please if this parameter has another name ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/57 "2017-05-10T01:21:34Z")
Dear Ali, The structural twist is labeled StrcTwst in the ElastoDyn blade input file. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/58 "2017-05-13T12:09:37Z")
Many thankls to your responses tell me please if in your system of direction in the blades ,the in-plane mode correspond to the flpawise and the out of plane in the edg-wise, and what means pratically the symmetric and asymmetric mode of the three flapwise of each mode ---
**Author:** ![Jason.Jonkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/nrel/user_avatar/forums.nlr.gov/jason.jonkman/32/3086_2.png) [@Jason.Jonkman](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Jason.Jonkman)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/59 "2017-05-15T14:59:37Z")
Dear Ali, By “out-of-plane” and “in-plane” we mean normal and tangential to the rotor plane, respectively. By “flapwise” and “edgewise” we mean coincident with the local principle axes of bending. For zero blade-pitch and zero structural pretwist, flapwise and out-of-plane are the same and edgewise and in-plane are the same directions. The symmetric flapwise mode implies that all blades are bending in the same direction. An asymmetric flapwise mode implies that one blade bends in the opposite direction of the other(s). I hope that helps. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Ali.Elyaakoubi](https://forums.nlr.gov/u/Ali.Elyaakoubi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246/60 "2017-07-13T16:05:04Z")
Dear Mr jason tell me please if I need to perform rthe mbc transformation in this model: I have extracted a linear model from FAST around an operating point in the above rated wind speed with the activated DOFs: GenDOF, DrTrDof and Flapwise bending mode Thank you for your response [Previous page](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.nlr.gov/t/simulation-of-an-offshore-wind-turbine-5mw-based-dfig/1246.md?page=4)